イラク戦争から20年…首都バグダッドの現在を取材してみた

I am in Baghdad, the capital of Iraq. You can see a platform over there, and there’s a statue of Saddam Hussein there. It’s unbelievably hot. This one’s for you. No liver meat. Wow, amazing! Is this like an Iraqi sandwich? I’ll try it. What is your impression of Japan? Baghdad, the capital of Iraq. It was once a fierce battleground during the Iraq War. The subsequent American occupation saw a series of terrorist attacks. This time I will be walking around Baghdad reporting on current conditions in Iraq. Hello everyone. I’m KANTA HARA. I am currently in Baghdad, the capital of Iraq. What impression comes to your mind when you hear the word Iraq? The Iraq War, the Islamic State, the civil war. I think there are many people who have that kind of negative image. Now that Iraq has overcome the Iraq War and the rule of the Islamic State, how is it changing? This time I would like to take a closer look at life in the capital, Baghdad. This is NAHOKO TAKATO, who has been working in Iraq for over 20 years. Hello. The place we are in now looks like a square, but what place is it called? Baghdad is synonymous with Tahrir Square. “Tahrir” means freedom in Arabic. Iraqi people held various rallies and demonstrations here, and many other events took place. Was this place used during the Iraq War? By the time I arrived, such anti-war activities were no longer taking place. For example, in 2019, the October Revolution occurred. It was an anti-government demonstration. This very place became the stage, and the place was filled with people. The situation ended up with government forces and demonstrators facing each other in the middle of the bridge. In any case, this is a square where people who seek freedom gather. This time I would like to take a look at life in the capital, Baghdad. Thank you for the guidance here. It’s so hot, though. What is the perceived temperature? Around 32 to 33 degrees Celsius? It may feel even hotter than it actually is. Stay hydrated and make sure to move to the shade when necessary. Now, let’s go to the shade. Thank you for your guidance today. It’s hot in Baghdad, Iraq. I filmed this video in May. It’s this hot in May. I wonder if the maximum temperature today will be around 35℃? (The temperature on this day was 40℃.) Moreover, in summer, the temperature can rise to around 50°C. I’ve been to a lot of hot countries. This is a slightly different kind of heat than the countries I’ve visited so far. It’s sooooo dry. It’s as hot as being exposed to the wind from a hair dryer. However, since there is no humidity, I don’t feel like I’m sweating profusely. However, it does take up quite a bit of water, so I’ll try to stay hydrated while filming the video. Erbil, where I was staying until this morning, had a huge number of skyscrapers and tower apartment buildings. However, I get the impression that there aren’t many tall buildings in Baghdad. They are no taller than four or five stories. TAKATO had told me in advance that the atmosphere was like a town from the 80s. Of course I come here with a sense of nervousness. I may see sights I’ve never seen in any country I’ve ever been to. I’m really looking forward to it. I said earlier that the temperature in Baghdad is 35 degrees Celsius. I just checked the temperature in Baghdad on my iPhone. It is now exactly 12 noon. The temperature has already reached 40°C. The air conditioning is on in the car, so I can travel extremely comfortably. However, it’s extremely hot outside. As I said earlier, when the wind blows it feels like I’m being blown by a hair dryer. But personally, as I said before, I thought the temperature could have been a little lower. I am used to the heat of Japanese summers, with very high humidity and temperatures of 37-38°C. There is almost no humidity here and it is very dry. It’s hot, but not the kind of hot that makes you sweat profusely. It’s a little different from the kind of heat that makes you feel lethargic and like you don’t want to do anything anymore. That’s the kind of climate it is. Suddenly, we were stopped by a man passing by. I was wondering what on earth was going to happen…and then… They just wanted to take a photo with this rare Oriental. Jackie Chan is famous in Iraq, and NAHOKO and I did some kung fu poses. What kind of place are we in right now? This is Firdos Square. On May 1, 2003, President Bush announced an end to large-scale combat. That day I arrived here. I walked through this area every day to do various things. You can see a platform over there, and there’s a statue of Saddam Hussein there. Originally there was a bigger platform. Above it was a statue of Saddam. The US military invaded here and pulled down the statue of Saddam. Shortly thereafter, a group of artists designed a Statue of Peace and erected it here. However, the park no longer has much of its former glory. Now that is very beautiful. Yes, it turned out very beautifully. I would glance at the Ramadan Mosque every day and use it as a landmark when I passed by. When Saddam Hussein’s statue was toppled it received a lot of coverage around the world. People celebrating around the statue of Hussein. And then there’s the famous scene of a child hitting a statue of Hussein with a slipper. However, I’ve heard that when the cameras pulled back, there weren’t many people who were happy about it. Is that true? it’s true. For example, in Japan, this is described in detail in a documentary called “Little Birds” by journalist TAKEHARU WATAI. WATAI pulls the camera back, revealing the happy people around him. People look up to the sky, praying, or with gloomy expressions on their faces. Or they watch calmly from a distant window. The reaction from the people was not just joy. That’s what actually happened. When I first came here I spoke to a lot of different people. Reactions were mixed. When the Saddam statue was pulled down, leaving nothing on its pedestal. The area was surrounded by barbed wire and concrete blocks. For example, this is the Sheraton Hotel. This is the Palestine Hotel. All of this was surrounded by four-metre concrete blocks. There were words like “U.S. OUT” written in English all over the place, on the base where the statue was located and on the concrete blocks in the area. The Palestine Hotel was a press center at the time, serving as a base for media from all over the world. Freelance journalists had been checking the bulletin boards there in search of drivers and interpreters. All of the Japanese mass media, including CNN, had their offices in the Palestine Hotel or the hotel behind it. During the final stages of the major war, US forces fire artillery at the Palestine Hotel from a bridge over the Tigris River. As I said, there were a lot of media people there. A Reuters cameraman has died. In the next room was Japanese journalist MIKA YAMAMOTO. MIKA died in Syria. At that time, there were two Japanese journalists here named MIKA YAMAMOTO and SATO. Right before their eyes, a journalist was killed in a US military attack while inside the Palestine Hotel, the press center for the news. This was not the only time journalists were targeted. NGOs have also been subjected to warning shots when moving. We Japanese have also experienced this. On two occasions, I was driven alongside a US military vehicle, held at gunpoint, and forced to lie face down on the ground. Some journalists and newspaper reporters have had their digital cameras smashed to the ground by them. Some people have been told to delete their data. It varies. Why did the US military do this? What actually happened at that time? I’d like to hear more details. But it’s hot. My camera is about to overheat and shut down. This is incredibly hot. It seems dangerous if we continue like this. I’d like to ask you some more questions in a calm place. That’s hot. You are sweating a lot. That is shockingly hot. I was feeling confident earlier, saying that it wouldn’t be too humid here so it should be okay. If I stand in direct sunlight for even a minute, I start sweating like crazy and the sweat gets into my eyes. What’s more, if the camera overheats, I’m unable to take pictures. So after I take the picture with my camera, I run into the shade. The footage was cut off midway because my camera overheated and shut down. (Muslim greeting). Can I have a cup of chai please? Now the shop owner has offered me chai. I’ll try the chai. Wow, that’s hot. Chai… Is this coffee? No, this is chai. This is tea. Ooh, this is delicious. This is delicious. Ahh, that’s sweet. It’s sweet, but has a gentle taste. It’s delicious. How much is that? I ordered it without asking the price. Well, I’ll pay for it later. They ended up saying “you don’t have to pay” and I enjoyed it. This is for you. No liver meat. Wow, amazing! thank you. Is this like an Iraqi sandwich? That’s a sandwich. It’s a falafel sandwich. It has chickpea croquettes inside. Ah, this is falafel, right? Yes, that’s what’s inside. This is liver meat. All of this is inside. This is AMBA sauce. I see. I’ll try eating this. I ordered a falafel sandwich for lunch at a local restaurant. Can you see inside? So there’s a lot of salad inside. And as you can see here, it has chickpea croquettes in it. It also contains a variety of other ingredients such as eggplant, cucumber, and tomato. I take a bite of the sauce. That’s delicious! That’s delicious! It’s a sauce with a slightly sour taste. Does it contain fruit? It’s a bit of a sour sauce. This bread is probably most similar to naan in Japan. This is a naan-like dough. Plus, it has a lot of vegetables in it. They are raw vegetables, so they are crunchy and very delicious. Then I try the falafel and croquette parts as well. Wow, delicious! The chickpea croquettes and eggplant add a nice accent to this dish, which is incredibly delicious. How much is this? Let me ask the price. TAKATO. how much is this? That’s 100 yen. This is 1000 dinars. This is 1000 Iraqi dinars. Currently, 1 yen is roughly equal to 10 Iraqi dinars. So this is 100 yen. Amazing! My lunch cost only 100 yen. I mentioned that a little earlier. This looks like coffee. It is dark in color. At first I thought it was coffee. This is chai, black tea. Apparently Iraq is the only place in the Middle East where chai is made this strong. Apparently they use a lot of black tea leaves to make it. It has a lot of sugar in it, but it’s very drinkable and delicious. Chai is available in many countries and is delicious. When I walk around Baghdad, people ask me if I’m from Korea and greet me in Korean. I am often mistaken for a Korean. It’s hard for people here to tell us Asians apart. When I go to Africa, I am often mistaken for a Chinese person. Here, people think I’m Korean. There are two main reasons for this. One reason is the presence of Korean companies. It seems that home appliance manufacturers such as Samsung and LG have a lot of influence. The other one seems to be K-POP. BTS and BLACK PINK, for example. I don’t know much about that at all. K-POP seems to be really popular in Iraq right now. It seems that there are a lot of K-POP fans, especially among young children. So I get mistaken for a Korean a lot. I’d like to ask TAKATO about this later. Iraq has long enjoyed good relations with Japan. In the 1980s, many Japanese companies came here. The influence of cars like Toyota was huge. It seems that Japan was also recognized in Iraq in the past. But then the Iraq War happened. Japan sent its Self-Defense Forces to support the United States. From that point on, their view of Japan changed. They thought Japan was a very friendly and peaceful country. However, Japan sent the Self-Defense Forces during the Iraq War. “Are you guys with America too?” It seems like more and more people here are thinking this way. Now, Baghdad is slowly changing. I would like to provide a detailed report. It seems like Japanese food is experiencing a boom right now. However, it seems that South Korea now has a greater presence in Iraq than Japan. That’s why I’m here and introducing myself as a Japanese YouTuber. I want to increase Japan’s presence even a little. I believe that this is the kind of reporting we are able to do. Do you speak English? Yes, I speak English. Look at that. That is my truck. You speak English very well. Yes, I speak English well. How did you study English? No, I’m not studying. I have worked in many companies. OK, so you worked? I can’t write now. But I heard it with my own ears. That’s how I learned the language. OK, OK. Did you learn English through your work? yes. What kind of image do you have of Japan? I don’t know much about that. you do not know? I have never worked with a Japanese person. With Koreans and Chinese. And I worked with Turks and Americans. I have never worked with Japanese people. Do you know Toyota? Yes, I would like to go to Japan. I want to see your country. But if I go, I need a lot of things. I need a lot of money and a visa. . It’s now around 2pm. The temperature is too high. Now it’s about 41 degrees. The camera may overheat and shut down. So we decide to kill time until the sun goes down. Now we’re going to the cafe. Baghdad is an ancient city that dates back hundreds of years. There are a variety of buildings, from those that are 100 or 200 years old, to very modern and stylish buildings. It’s very interesting to walk around. Well, we’ll take a rest at the cafe. These birds will die in this heat. bird? It’s true that it’s a shame they have to be left out here in the scorching sun for so long. It’s really hot though. It’s a store with a nice atmosphere. It feels a bit Italian. Oh, it’s a pizza place. He gave me a big smile. When I point the camera, some people wave or try to appear on film. This city is very easy to shoot videos in. Wow, that’s a really nice atmosphere. Wow, that’s very stylish. Ah, it’s cool. The menu is designed like a newspaper. The drinks are listed here. That’s stylish. The price is relatively reasonable and cheap. To repeat, 1 yen is roughly 10 Iraqi dinars. Divide these prices by 10 to get the approximate value in Japanese Yen. An “iced espresso” costs 350 yen. A “Hazelnut Iced Latte” costs 400 yen. They are about the same price as Japanese cafes, if not cheaper. They also have ice cream and Frappuccinos. There are many types of them. Above all, the atmosphere of the shop is great. At night the atmosphere changes again, doesn’t it? There are a lot more people at night. Now it is under renovation. Normally, there is seating all the way to the back of the cafe. This is an old cafe. This is where the intellectuals and fashionable people gather. So people just lay out their laptops here and get work done? There are a lot of people chatting here at night. It’s really nice here at night. The cafe staff just brought me some water. This is the style of water in Iraq. It comes in this little plastic cup kind of thing. We sometimes see water like this when we fly on an airplane. Here, water is provided like this in many places, such as hotels and cafes. This water is about 200ml, about one glass. This seems to be causing a garbage problem. This cannot be recycled either. A plastic bottle would be at least 500ml. It’s 200ml, so you’ll finish it in no time. This is apparently causing a serious plastic waste problem in Iraq right now. These are coffee beans. This is the powdered coffee for Turkish coffee. Ah, so this is what is used in Turkish coffee. Do you know this blue object? No, I don’t know. This is an Islamic amulet. It’s called “Evil Eye.” It protects you. It’s on the wall over there too. Is that a Muslim amulet? that’s right. There are lots of cakes here. They look delicious. I think they look sweet. This is a chocolate cake. What is this? Is it a cheesecake? And eclairs. donut. There are lots of cakes here too. Many Middle Eastern sweets are quite sweet. This also looks delicious. It has something like an Oreo cookie on top. but…. Oh, we have chocolate croissants here. I have a feeling they’re probably sweet. There are lots of cakes that look delicious. There are also systems in place that allow you to order electronically. It’s very advanced. There is a self-ordering machine like this at the entrance to the cafe. The cafe staff are waiting for us to take photos. TAKATO: He is aware of YouTube. Frappuccino? yes! Frappuccino! Amazing! This is full of cream. This is the mocha Frappuccino I ordered at a cafe in Baghdad. Look, the amount of cream is incredible. There’s no need to go to Starbucks when you can drink something this amazing. By the way, it seems that Starbucks hasn’t come to this town yet. I’ll try drinking it. delicious! That’s so delicious! It gives off a very strong coffee flavor. Ahh, delicious! It has a strong coffee flavour. Because this is a coffee shop! Ahh, delicious! It’s so delicious. Ah, delicious! I feel alive again. This is Iraq, folks! This is a bad habit of mine. Whenever I come across something delicious, I always end up drinking or eating it right away. I should have taken a video of them while they were still beautiful. I’m so sorry. This is after I drank so it doesn’t look pretty. Oh, you’re getting a lot of attention. While I was drinking my coffee, a male cafe employee came over to me with his smartphone. “Are you a YouTuber or a TikToker?” he said. I answered that I was a YouTuber. He immediately opened the YouTube app and told me to enter my name. I typed in KANTA HARA. And he subscribed to my channel on the spot. It seems that more and more young people in Iraq, especially in Baghdad, are becoming YouTubers, Instagrammers, and TikTokers. It seems that the number of people aspiring to this kind of work is increasing significantly. Before I came here. I thought people would dislike me if I revealed that I was a YouTuber. I was worried that filming a video would be suspicious, especially from government officials. But now, on the contrary, I’m making a point of highlighting the fact that I’m a YouTuber, and people are coming closer to me. They tell me to film them. They ask my name. I thought it would be difficult to shoot video because Iraq was at war. In fact, it’s the exact opposite; it makes video recording incredibly easy. When I tried this earlier, I couldn’t quite describe how delicious it was. I drank this all in one go. This is seriously delicious. This is the best mocha frappuccino I’ve ever had. Does this cafe have a long history? Coffee shop…. This is a blackout that Iraq is famous for. Well, that’s quite common. I’m used to that in Africa. This is a specialty coffee shop. It will have a strong coffee taste, right? It really does have a strong coffee flavour. And it blends perfectly with the sweetness of the fresh cream. It’s truly exquisite, the best in the world. We got 3 stars! 3 stars! Seriously delicious! Really delicious! Guys, it’s worth coming to Baghdad just to drink this coffee! Did you hear that?! It’s really delicious. “I have a video I want to show KANTA,” the driver said, showing me his smartphone with a serious look on his face. The driver, AHMAD, seems to be posting videos of his pet pigeons on TikTok. He is showing me a video of the pigeon. He apparently keeps about 50 pigeons in total. I guess pigeons are very important to the people of Iraq. I don’t know much about it, so I’ll ask TAKATO later. “They’re so beautiful, aren’t they?” he says. He is boasting to me about his pigeons. There are many Korean-made cars on the roads in Iraq. Hyundai and Kia. Hyundai is South Korea’s number one automaker. Kia is in second place (now part of the Hyundai group). A significant proportion of them are Hyundai and Kia. In Uganda, where I often visit, and in Kenya, where I recently went for an interview. Japanese cars such as Toyota are overwhelmingly strong. In Uganda, about 90% of the cars are Japanese. Most of them are used Toyotas. When it comes to Iraq, the Korean presence is also evident in the cars. There are a lot of Kia and Hyundai cars. The big hotel you can see behind me is the Palestine Hotel. It was used as a press center during the Iraq War. Just as TAKATO explained earlier. US troops fired on it during the Iraq War. And the journalist inside died. Behind me is a hotel that symbolizes the Iraq War. That is a very big hotel. A distinctive spiral shape is visible. Maybe that’s for better ventilation? It has a characteristic shape. You said earlier that US forces have attacked the Palestine Hotel while journalists were there. For ordinary people, it is hard to understand why the US military would attack a place where journalists are present. Why did the US military do such things during their occupation? This is a common occurrence in conflict zones. For example, right now Palestinian journalists are being killed by the Israeli army. And in other countries too, in conflict zones, journalists are really targeted. An international organization called the Committee to Protect Journalists publishes a report about this every year. Journalists are highly targeted. During the Iraq War, US troops fired cannon artillery at the Palestine Hotel from the bridge. As I said earlier, the Palestine Hotel was the headquarters for mass media from all over the world. The shell hit the room next door where Japanese journalists were located. And a Reuters cameraman died. In addition, reporters from the Asahi Shimbun and other newspapers had their cameras smashed and data erased by the U.S. military. A lot of things happened. There was a freelance journalist reporting from Ramadi and Fallujah in Anbar province. He was captured by US forces along with the Iraqi interpreter I had introduced to him. He was detained for nine days. As a prisoner of war, he was numbered on his chest. He ended up being imprisoned at a US military base along with the Iraqi. When journalists report from various places, the actions of the occupiers are brought to light. That is very inconvenient for them. I myself have had similar experiences with Amber a couple of times. There were two times when American soldiers yelled at me and made me lie on the ground face down. They act that way because there are things they don’t want people to know. I still keep in touch with former U.S. soldiers. Once they take off their military uniforms, they become ordinary civilians. When they return to America, they become normal fathers and good sons. I was sometimes very confused by that difference. But I finally thought, If circumstances had been different, I might have had to join the U.S. military. For example, I may not be able to afford to go to college. There will be people from the U.S. military coming to my high school, and they could become like mentors to me. They will be able to give you advice on your future and career prospects. And I might join the US military to earn money to go to college. Such a decision is entirely possible. And once I join the U.S. military, I will undergo extremely intense training in boot camp to become a part of the organization. They start by thoroughly destroying the individual. I will be trained as part of the organization. And I will pledge my allegiance to the military. In that case, I would do the same as them. In the general society in which we live, murder is considered a crime by law. But in the military, you have to kill people. You train to kill people. Guns themselves don’t kill people. The person wielding the gun controls it. In the military, you can’t kill someone if you get shot. Their logic is the opposite of ours. Under military law, not wanting to kill someone is actually a crime. For example, in the US military there is a crime called cowardice. There are also various other crimes, such as treason and desertion before the enemy. All of these are serious crimes or punishable by death under U.S. military law. As children, they are taught to get along with everyone. When they reach their teenage years and join the military, they are asked to do the exact opposite. They have to train to kill people. In such situations, they find it difficult to reconcile their actions with their conscience. American soldiers also suffer from PTSD. This doesn’t just happen to American soldiers. The same would happen to us if we were placed in that environment. If we ever find ourselves in a situation where we have to go to war and receive military training, that’s what will happen to us. All humans are the same. The environment makes people that way. There were many violations of international law by the US military during the Iraq War, including the attack on the Palestine Hotel. Of course, that depends on the person. But when you look at the individual and remove the framework of the military… Apparently many American soldiers suffered from pangs of conscience. that’s right. I first came to Iraq to provide humanitarian assistance. I continued to interview Iraqi victims. But after about a year. In Japan, I met a very large American soldier. He felt very weak. I met him at a joint lecture in Japan. We were standing on the same stage. His wife held his hand the whole time. He looked very weak. I was yelled at by American soldiers in Baghdad. So I was shocked by the difference. He was tormented by feelings of guilt and remorse. He spoke of his experience. While he was at the checkpoint, a lot of cars came by. He was scared and said “stop” but the car didn’t stop. He put out his fist and signaled the car to stop, but it didn’t stop. He opened his hand and signaled the car to stop, but the car didn’t stop. Then the car slowly approached. He thought it was a car bomb and fired at it. He went to check and found a family inside. There were lots of children. He testified that he could never forget it. Since then, he has had many doubts and has been plagued by feelings of guilt. This was the first time I had heard that such people existed. Since then, I have also begun to research American soldiers. Shortly afterwards I went to America. My friend and I made an appointment at a government veterans hospital to talk to a counselor. I had the opportunity to cover the topic of war PTSD. I came to the realization that on the battlefield, everyone is hurt, both the victims and the perpetrators. From then on, I began interacting with American soldiers. I felt more and more that war was terrible. There are no winners. Both sides are badly hurt. I faced that reality. I thought further. When we are placed in such an environment. When we have to do this kind of thing. Anyone can be a monster. All humans have it. That’s the idea I came to. Humans are cruel. There’s no one who doesn’t have it. I think the key to stopping this is being aware of it. Recognizing that it is possible for that to happen to us acts as a stopper. No one is a monster from the start. People can always become like that. That’s one of the biggest lessons. There is a famous psychological experiment. When instructed by a professor conducting an experiment in a laboratory, ordinary people would gradually increase the intensity of the electric shocks. I think it was the Milgram experiment. No matter who a person is, if the circumstances are right they can commit any kind of cruel act. Even if you think you’re fine, when you’re placed in that environment, humans can become cruel. I remembered that experiment. So what was the Iraq War about? Who was the war for? No one is a winner. Everyone was hurt. And there’s not even a just cause. There were no weapons of mass destruction. The same goes for Vietnam War veterans. Soldiers seem to suffer even more without a just cause. There is no cause to lift them out of the depths of despair. That is really painful. I felt that very strongly. I would like to delve deeper into the history of the Iraq War and what happened where. Please continue to guide me. Baghdad, the capital of Iraq, was deeply damaged by the war. In the next video, I will interview a local person who lived in Baghdad during the war. I also cover hearty Iraqi cuisine. I will delve deeper into the current situation in Iraq. Our coverage of Iraq continues. If you haven’t subscribed to our channel yet, please do so so you don’t miss our next video. If you would like to know more about Japanese people working overseas or the real world situation that you cannot find in the major media? 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イラクの首都バグダッド――かつてはイラク戦争の激戦地となり、その後の占領期にも混乱が続いた都市です。

この動画では、2003年からイラクで人道支援に携わってきた高遠菜穂子さんとともに、実際にバグダッドの街を歩きます。

イラク戦争の当時に現地で何が起きていたのか、そして今バグダッドでは人々がどのように暮らしているのか?

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